17: Dilated Cardiomyopathy/Tank

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well once again thank you for reaching

out now for a tale from the hospital we

had a patient who came in because of an

episode of syncope or passing out while

they were at church if someone has an

episode of syncope at church it can be

important to ask what denomination they

belong to because some more charismatic

denominations may have unusual

traditions to bear in mind that could

have some effect on their clinical

course when I spoke to the patient’s

wife she said well we were at church on

during the second song he was laying on

the ground not moving a friend of ours

there is a nurse and she couldn’t find

his pulse for two minutes he wasn’t

breathing neither then another

churchgoer sprinkled some frankincense

on his chest it weren’t much but he did

wake up after that

so in the patient note we later

documented it as quote regained

consciousness following administration

of frankincense end quote considering

how little frankincense was reportedly

used one has to wonder what would have

happened had a higher dose of

frankincense been administered now for

today’s topic dilated cardiomyopathy

first let me break down those words a

little bit dilated cardiomyopathy so if

you’ve heard the term dilated pupils it

is referring to a lengthening of those

pupils in diameter so making them bigger

so dilated moles I mean if you don’t

train them yeah I’m sorry the pupils

this is that yeah this is like the I

understand the length can get kind of

crazy if you don’t like you know do

basic maintenance well okay so you don’t

usually trim your pupils cuz that’s

where you see out of Gen Y or am I not I

do I tried to they’re these are very

sensitive area so if you have you tried

have you tried cutting at your eye is

that what you’re saying here I’m saying

I trim my pupils oh okay so we’re

referring to the the eyes on the head I

trust me if someone’s looking my

people’s it’s all eyes or you know all

of their eyes are on my pupils because

they’re so meticulously maintained right

okay so so dilated means that something

is enlarged and cardio refers to heart

Maya refers to muscle and path refers to

something bad like an illness so dilated

cardiomyopathy refers to the muscle of

the heart being lengthened to such a

degree that it is bad it’s it becomes an

illness

so the the heart is normally like

squeezing it’s a squeezing muscular ball

but in dilated cardiomyopathy that

muscular pumping ball has been

overloaded with too much blood for too

long so it stretches out to accommodate

which is good that’s what you want for a

muscle well it has to stretch but then

it also has to be able to contract to

the same size no you don’t want your

muscles to go back to the same size

what’s the point of working out them so

well in the heart it’s it’s a little bit

different because if it gets to be the

heart as a muscle

yeah the goal of every hot human being

is to have bulging every muscle just

bulging out of their body okay we should

be looking toward to make our heart as

big as possible well for the for the

showy muscles not to mention your

heart’s bigger you can love more right

the grinch yeah see that was a fictional

take that wasn’t actually an in an

atomic Li correct movie oh so you’re

saying the Grinch has some sort of

disease because his heart grew three

times that day I thought that he’s just

worked out his heart properly well and

his heart workout was he did exercise

but I from what I understand in the

movie it was more about how much love he

had given which no no doesn’t he he was

climbing up and down that mountain which

he hadn’t done which strengthen his

heart made it grow three sizes then he

finally had the capacity to love so the

there isn’t to my knowledge there isn’t

a strong correlation between a heart

muscle size and one’s ability to love

don’t listen to dr. London you want

Grinch heart Grinch heart number one

heart to have be like the Grinch and

some when it gets too overloaded with

too much blood for too long it stretches

out and that actually makes it worse at

squeezing it’s like like when you

inflate a balloon alot and it does not

deflate to the same size after

that stretching so so I don’t know

camera if you see it’s not so much that

it’s more muscular it’s just that it got

stretched too far

set the muscles the actor miles because

the muscles got so big and strong right

and you keep saying oh but if it

deflates then the sack is gonna be like

a different size like a balloon but if

you keep working out it’s not gonna

deflate it’s gonna keep getting stronger

you’re gonna have double Grinch heart

double grande chart yeah okay so pay six

times the size of a normal heart okay so

so patient dream for every hot person to

tsiyon can present with shortness of

breath especially on exertion difficulty

breathing when laying down and other

symptoms of heart failure failure is

just a lesson really you know what I

mean

unless you quit but if you’re not a

quitter failure is just a teaching tool

to help you succeed the next time okay

so I totally get what you’re saying

you’re gonna you’re trying to work out

your heart anyway you keep failing you

keep failing you keep maybe you’re

you’re putting on too much weight maybe

you’re not able to sustain maybe you

don’t have the stamina to sustain the

workout but but okay cuz heart failure

if your heart fails you die I don’t

think that’s what I was gonna say I said

but and I’m not sure what I’m about to

say next but I don’t think it was what

you just said because the point that you

were getting at was that failure doesn’t

mean that you should give up that’s

correct yes but what I usually said

something so smart god that’s so smart

dr. London I appreciate you so the issue

with that is that you know what I’m

gonna stop egging your car that was you

yeah well not every single time but what

about the other times I there have been

times where I’ve shown up to egg your

car and it’s already been egged I don’t

know by who

that’s not my business I imagine you

would probably know more than me because

I’ve stopped I’ve at first I was

getting my car washed everyday because

this won’t stop happening yeah you know

it could be the guy who works at the

carwash

trying to drum up some business he’d

have to follow me home easy

what what do you mean easy you know he’d

have to leave work at whatever time like

he’d have to track me and go to my home

easy tracker just put a tracker on you I

have a tracker on you I know where you

are at all times what yeah like on my

car or on me on my person hmm let’s see

how much should I tell you about this I

feel like if I you know where the

tracker is it ruins the point of the

tracker yeah so I I would like you to

stop doing that what you get at Trader

Joe’s yesterday I saw you were there I

that’s right I know what you’re doing

you know just butter up for traders by

the way opened a sponsorship on this

show

all right well speaking of sponsors

Cameron do we have a sponsor today yes

we do dr. London all right

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I’m pretty I’m pretty excited about the

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and we got them as a sponsor yeah and

the best part is how much do you think

it costs a thousand dollars no well like

a per month do you mean or no I mean it

only costs three dollars a meal oh that

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yeah it’s really good that honestly

doesn’t even sound sustainable that

sounds very good it just sounds like a

great deal um the the service the the

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that’s that’s an a fortune name I think

it may be it’s it’s may become one of

those old-timey phrases that just hasn’t

aged well maybe I meant something back

when this company started it is a

different operation maybe pre-internet

or something like that do you think that

bung the whole sauce I used to mean

something good I I got to read this ad

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know if this is something I feel

comfortable with with art we have to

both say that we want Billy’s bunghole

sauce in our mouth Hey look I know

look this doesn’t seem did mmm tasty I

want Billy’s bunghole sauce right in my

mouth I don’t think that I want to say

it because that so we’re a medical

education podcast sure and so if our

advertising is medicine or something

it’s like medical ish right I mean diet

and exercise are its the significant

aspect thing as part of the umbrella of

your job you tell me about what they

should and should not eat and right now

I need you to tell people that they need

to eat Billy’s bug call sauce I don’t

know what that means it’s not doesn’t

even sound like a food it’s just a sauce

I would if I were to take a guess I

would say this company maybe started as

a sauce and then at some point pivoted

to a food delivery service but the food

is still just a sauce and you have to

slap whatever Billy is I know it’s

organic I know it’s healthy and other

there’s no preservatives

I know it’s non-processed hey then I

know that it the ads suggest that you’re

supposed to slap your billy around to

get the bunghole sauce Flo slap your own

Billy er I don’t know it doesn’t make

sense to me

it’s Billy referring to a like a body

part I can only assume but it’s not

connected to the Bunko that’s what I’m

saying this has to be that old phrase

that we don’t understand that’s why

that’s why I you know be a little more

comfortable with it but I do need you to

say I’m gonna slap my Billy around to

get the bunghole sauce flowin writing

into my small little mouth that’s how

you’re supposed to read I I need this I

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the bunghole sauce you know right into

my my little mouth subscribe today

subscribed and what are these subscribe

today but what are they since it’s a

subscription service yes like hello

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like a monthly service but it’s daily

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I’d well I I did say it I

I just don’t can’t take it back it says

in the ad read you can’t take it back

all right well thank you I guess to was

is it Billy’s it’s Billy Billy what do

you mean it’s Billy

no it’s Billy’s bunghole Billy’s

bunghole service okay yeah thank you for

for sponsoring us oh please any other

sponsors out there we could use some

something that you know like scrubs you

know something like that anyway thank

you to our sponsor all right Cameron do

we have a guest today we absolutely do

dr. London okay sounds great let me just

go get him okay okay well you’re tapping

with your hands there hey hey it’s me

okay yeah it can’t exist oh okay

okay so Cameron are you are you just

doing a voice what no no I’m I’m a guest

I’m the guest I’m a different guy I’m

not the first guy can’t who’s who is

Cameron so today you had told me

specifically that you had someone coming

in what I’m just meeting you now I

didn’t tell you anything you tell me I’m

a new guy so when you went to go get

this guest you sorry Cameron wherever

you are

you left who is that

so I don’t get to talk to Cameron now I

have to talk to who is that okay okay

hello sir hello what is your name

my name is tank okay tank do you have a

last name or just is tank your last name

should I call you mr. tank look man you

just gotta you gotta get you could have

give me this I need this okay so so just

kind of like lay off the difficult

questions I don’t know my last name just

kind of you just kind of I’ve been going

through a really hard time right now I

just need you know I think this could be

my big break your big break would be

being on this podcast just as a guest as

opposed to a co-host producer type well

yeah I’m thinking this tank guy maybe

could be like spin off until it gets own

podcast or something I’m not sure okay

basically you gotta trust me okay oh who

was just talking right there I all

that’s confusing me

okay I’m tank okay no last name

Oh like share or any of those I know

share has a last name she just

professionally goes by share so you’re

saying you were I was never given one

okay well that is interesting tank you

know so you were never given a last name

what did your parents what name did they

go by like if they have a last name and

they just decided not to bestow that

upon you well one of my mom’s was mom

one okay mother mom was mom two other

mom was mom three okay normally normally

parents there’s there’s one mother who

like was your genetic you know like

uh-huh blood by blood your mother so you

had three mothers white a lot more I I

am print pretty easily when I was

younger so I would just see people and

kind of declared them my mother okay so

it’s like 80 mother’s so this is an

interesting medical thing so um yeah

well just to explain for our listeners

imprinting a thing that is like a dog

yeah with ducks that that’s the thing

where you know a duck might see the

like the first thing it sees becomes its

mother what’s a dog do you think my guy

knows what ducks are I feel like it’s

pretty common to know okay oh I know

what ducks are so but unlike with ducks

we don’t have humans don’t have

imprinting as a part of their well I

definitely I mean I just said I have 80

moms that must have happened for some

sort of reason I don’t think he said 80

yeah I think I did and that have

happened and it happened for the reasons

I stated previously which is imprinting

okay so did you have like do you know

who gave birth to you yeah that I think

it was mom six okay so you saw you she

was a sixth person you saw yeah okay

what about your father could you tell me

about him uh that’s interesting you

assume that a family unit must have a

father that’s really interesting dr.

London do you want to elaborate on that

okay so in order to that you think a

family unit must have a paternal aspect

I wasn’t asking specifically very

interesting in this day and age to have

that kind of assumption okay to clarify

I was not sorry I’m tank I know what

ducks are to clarify I was not talking

about the family unit unit

I was speaking more about genetically

where because to make a person you have

the genes of the father and genes and

mother that you have the X and the y

genes okay xx and XY do you see how that

that’s what I meant it wasn’t okay

picking at that okay so what brings you

here today tank I don’t I don’t have a

job

okay so you’re on here to find a job

yeah I mean yeah do you have a job

that’d be great

no no we uh the only potential like even

even Cameron who was here

who is this man you keep mentioning so

Cameron is our producer Oh what is that

or I probably know what a producer is

right I’m not sure he I don’t know if

tank is ever on a podcast so I don’t

know if he would know well if I wanted

to spin off into his own podcast he

should probably know I know what a

producer is don’t try to tell me okay

all right do you want to tell me what a

producer is then uh not really

okay so you’re looking for a job and

what I was saying about Cameron is that

Cameron he’s our producer uh-huh who who

is this man okay we’re gonna we’ll move

on from there then or what kind of what

kind of skill sets do you have then as a

you’re an unemployed person looking for

a job

what could you contribute I’m a job well

I like dogs wait did we decide that I’d

like ducks or that I I know what ducks

are I just took on an attribute of a

duck but I know I know what does you

know what the Ducks are yeah oh yeah big

fan of ducks coach okay so that that is

your skill set

yeah that’s skilled number one okay that

you like ducks uh-huh

that I served with knots okay okay so

you can do like I don’t know a lot of

sailors are known for yeah I can do a

sailor not I can do an anchor not okay I

can do like a like a Sally Jessy Raphael

not oh okay so you know a lot of so it

sounds like you could really you can

work on a like a sailing ship yeah but

I’m afraid of water if I’m ready to I’m

an I’m tank I would just sink okay so is

that I can’t swim

is that where your name came from yeah

cuz I’m Hank okay well I’m dense okay

I’m not physically large but I’m

extremely heavy okay that’s that sounds

odd okay um but anyway

I guess I mean I guess the main thing

that I can tie really well unfortunately

is a hangman’s noose huh

well that sends you ever played that

game hangman yeah I know I’m talking

about no I I know without even playing

the game because the game is just a game

where you add parts to a person

yeah the hangman who uh and it’s based

on like filling in the blanks shirt and

the word it’s like will fortune kind of

yeah yeah it’s kind of like that so but

you’re not tying isn’t related to that

correct it’s more of a just tying a

hangman’s knot my knot times not related

to what will fortune no nor the game

hangman mmm I mean yeah I love that game

so much as a kid

oh is that what inspired you to when

you’re I’m so what what job did you have

previously um well I would pull a big

lever lever okay is that was that the

hole is that that’s the job I mean big

part of the job so normally in a job

like that sounds like have you been

replaced by automation then because a

lot of simple manual jobs that they’ve

been replaced by robots yeah it’s been

automated okay so now what what what was

a lever for did you well it was a trauma

machine let’s just say you pull the

lever and then that hangman’s not new so

I was talking about before would do its

job you tank were you a hangman the

that’s I mean that’s not what we called

ourselves what executioner yeah

okay I guess is hangman the term for the

person hanging I think hangman’s like a

children’s game that we were just

discussing so you were previously an

executioner yep

that where were you employed because I

don’t see that job coming Hospital what

the house which hospital John Hopkins

they employed you as an executioner

Johns Hopkins yeah to take care of the

people who were maybe acting on a rule

II not listening to nurses and stuff so

there there’s medication for that though

yeah the ultimate medication okay so

this around your neck

okay I’m tank right I know what ducts

are right now you know I tied knots but

yes observe of my own podcast alright

and so what I guess we can go into what

would your podcast be about because you

say the the job that you were used to

before was like I guess hanging people

yeah and then they automated it John

Hopkins has automated the process of

executing its patients unfortunately

that’s just kind of the society we live

in these people like Elon Musk and

whatnot are investing billions of

dollars into AI and automation just to

replace our jobs okay this doesn’t sound

like I’ve never heard of that being a

thing at a hospital like not in modern

history

have you been to job Hopkins John Aldens

not no not in person no well so that’s

that is happening there yep okay well if

any of our listeners are from there I

would love to hear about sort of what

goes on with that but for now we have

this guest here so tank what you keep

bringing up this podcast that you know

what do you want to do like what would

you talk about on the podcast what would

be your sort of premise your pitch well

you know like how in this show you do

like tales from the hospital and yeah

talk about patients you interacted with

it’d be like that but with people you

execute yeah

like funny stories I like this one time

this guy like right before I pulled the

lever he like I guess he was nervous and

he liked sneezed and tooted at the same

time it’s foggy we all laughed and I

pulled the lever and he you know he died

yeah

he’s read to the nurses so you’re your

podcast would be talking about times

whenever people said or did something

funny right before you executed them

that’s the premise we could talk

different types of ropes and maybe we

could talk different types of like hoods

you know because I wear like a hood

you’ve got to like protect your identity

when you’re when you’re dating people so

their families don’t get mad because

their families are there okay we invite

them you invite them big in the evite

why do you invite them well I assume

they want to see say goodbye well I the

latter part sure but the whole concept

still seems very strange to me but uh on

the executing misbehaving patients I

mean so on the former part it says you

talk about talking about the hoods like

you mean like hangman fashions like

executioner fashion trends wool yeah but

there’s one fashion it’s the hood right

okay so the hood what sort of changes

would you talk about over like what

would you talk about like just it’s a

black hood correct yeah but you can get

it in like small or medium or large so

you’d have something episodes of the

podcast you would talk about how maybe

you could do like a crazy design on it

like maybe you could have a duck like we

talked about before maybe okay to have

like I don’t know like another animal

like a dog or a turtle or something so

just changing up the

but looking just put whatever you want

on there as long as your favorite bands

or something okay like a bumper stickers

yeah okay that’s a good idea

put bumper stickers on it I guess I it

seems like you would run out of content

for your podcast pretty quickly though

because I don’t know that what do you

mean well I don’t know that hoods what

the hell are you talking about

well I’m tank I don’t I don’t know that

customizer I was talking before I you

sort of okay so I are or even touring

drink

good morning tank didn’t have an accent

before okay so he knew to Bloo Blee so

it seems like you’d run out of content

for a podcast if you talked what because

there aren’t a lot of executioner’s left

Tim I know it’s like it seems like

that’s a dying trade like you said well

well it’s not necessarily trying to

appeal only to other executed

executioner’s but maybe you know other

people vaguely interested in the trade

why would they be interested in the

trade though if if it’s a dying trade

like it there’s no room for employment

and what you’re talking about is very

specific to that yeah maybe they just

maybe at MIT

maybe boys stories that I’m telling all

funny and interesting enough maybe or

maybe I’m a babe

was that it no none of these are you’re

talking maybe people would be interested

and the executioner stories that I’m

telling which are just about someone who

says something funny or weird before

they die yeah or maybe you know like

they’re like the one of their family

members just there and like maybe like

someone at the hospital is like pulling

pranks on them or something that could

be something well that sounds a little

bit more like what our podcast does

with bringing up clinical anecdotes like

something strange happens at the

hospital and then we talk about that

this is more like but this is just more

like people playing pranks on on the

family members of these people were

executing could you give me an example

of that because it sounds like a very

push them over okay I was gonna say it

sounds like a very difficult time for

the families like they’d be grieving

that’s the best time to pull a prank it

seems like it’d be a terrible time

because they wouldn’t be receptive to

that type of humor well yeah but it’s

not for them

you don’t prank people for them you for

the YouTube video so you record it and

what hold on do you record the the

hanging as well yeah okay okay Cameron

this character seems kind of dark what

I’m friends with ducks how can I be how

can how can I be dark do you do you

think it’s too dark to get get

sponsorships if I make doesn’t do a

podcast yeah yeah I do well what I was

expecting today wasn’t I mean do you

think I should like like have something

sauce here like a hook like so do I

bring like sex into it or do I bring

like I don’t think so is that what

you’re saying it couldn’t be a podcast I

think it’s so nice that you won’t find

listeners because executioner’s aren’t

really a job that people can relate to

very well or do any do you think maybe

if I United people around like hatred

like I like hating someone that would

bring in an audience it this job you

know how we talked about like hoods and

stuff before you we wear the hoods and

we can make em designer designer hoods

yeah well those hoods we only wear black

hoods at our executioner jobs okay and

you know who sucks people who wear white

hoods oh okay so you’re going into you

you’re going to talk about race racism

I I mean no I don’t think the color of

who do you wear has anything to do with

your race okay but this is interesting

though do you want to talk about this

does this tie into your your view of

what a family unit is do they are they a

particular color to you dr. London

no I interesting what so white hoods are

famously worn by the Klu Klux Klan which

is who it’s it’s a race that tell me so

that’s a group that’s based on racism

that they they target African American

people and they’re traditionally white

people Caucasian people who target

African American people and commit

crimes against them and believe that

they are an inferior people yeah so so I

don’t think that going into the

territory of bringing in the the hoods

like change them to white hoods or

something would be very good because

then you would bring up that you don’t

think it would be good for the podcast

to speak negatively about the KKK you

think we should be speaking positively

about them avoiding the subject

altogether avoiding it doesn’t seem sure

you can say KKK is bad white hoods are

bad I just don’t know that that would be

like necessarily the best thing to fill

up a pod cat like I prefer more mild

like more nice things you know those

guys those these these white hood KKK

guys let me tell you they they’re not

professionals

they’re basically freelancers that’s

your problem with them yeah just do it

for fun there’s no artistry in it you

know so but your artistry you said it’s

pulling a lever yeah and then sometimes

pulling a prank

unlike the family members or like maybe

tickling their the guy about to execute

snows with like a feather to get him to

sneeze okay so on that so you your

problem with the KKK with white hood

where’s

is that their their work ethic is

different from yours yeah

same job in a way I guess they don’t

they famously I don’t remember them

being known for pulling levers so much

as as they it’s like it’s a very touchy

like an uncommon thing maybe this dicey

of information to to get into I don’t

see that really fitting with our podcast

which is a medical education podcast you

don’t think there’s something Mexico

cool about executing patients at a

hospital i I

it becomes medical but I don’t think it

necessarily should be a part of what we

teach you it’s or more about lifestyle

changes here this is a lifestyle and how

to how to improve your health as a

person healthy the levers hard to pull

muscles sure okay but that once again

you that’s also been automated so that’s

not really that’s true so much a part of

your job anymore right which is what I’m

trying to get into podcasting because I

don’t have a job and you’re gonna use

your work history well okay what have

you thought of a name for your podcast

yeah just probably like like I execute

people please listen to my podcast okay

that that that’s the full name yeah I

think if I ask people to listen the

podcast in the title it’ll probably get

people to listen to it okay you think

people read the full name of a long name

then make their decision on whether to

listen yeah okay

welcome what I’ve seen with other

attempts at podcasts that they are not

getting people to listen to it and the

next one thing maybe that’s what’s

missing admittedly our podcast doesn’t

ask people to listen and we do get

guests like like you so well I it’s been

great having you on tank yeah it is and

I enjoy we look forward to hearing from

you maybe not have you on so much but

we’ll hear from you again maybe

you have a successful podcast probably

not because I’m gonna use the lever on

myself okay no no well that’s not a

lever sound Cameron are you back oh yeah

I’m back oh man sorry I was gone for so

long I went to the market to get apples

I you don’t have any eye for apples ate

them on the way home okay well um you

missed our guest tank

Oh but was he crazy

not really hmm

but thank you tank for being on the show

I think well Thank You Cameron I guess

for being on earlier yep

and thank you did you do it my name is

dr. Lennon Smith back home this has been

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