Episode 2. The heart/Exotic Meats

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London Smith calm after our first
episode I have been told that I may have
been a little bit too uptight in that
first episode just a little on the
strict side a little bit
okay London okay and I’m trying to
that’s that’s why we do this that’s why
we listen to our our listeners and of
course a producer here Cameron who uh
you know as as you’ve told me no one
will listen to our medical advice if it
isn’t fun so and I do want this to be a
fun fun podcast not boring so I’m gonna
try to tone that down you kept up kept
talking about stethoscopes the boring
right so I’m gonna it’ll be more more
fun more fun yeah and as always we are
joined by DJ Dylan no host Beth Alicia
thank you sorry sir did you Dylan
alright so in the spirit of being fun
I’m gonna go ahead and start out with
telling you about a patient we recently
had in the hospital who tell me uh-huh
so this patient presented with an upset
stomach no I feel like we’ve all had
that right yeah I’ve had that before
yeah Heather right now okay so when
asked if she is allergic to any
medication she listed a zofran also
known as a dance a Tron she’s she said
that that was making her nausea worse so
the irony here is that zofran is
actually a very good and technology of
medication and it’s approved for CH
patience not just regular nausea but who
are on chemotherapy it doesn’t sound
like it something it’s wrong back thank
you
so it sounds like it’s nausea medicine
Aflac right so it’s it’s Edison you take
when you mean want to be nauseous
thank you so not it’s to treat the knob
yeah that’s that’s what the minute yeah
sounds like it’s getting her nausea
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thank you um I might you might don’t
know the side effects but uh anyway so
an allergic reaction would actually be
things like breaking out in rashes or
hives or pitiful access when you’re
through it your throat starts closing up
and so this is actually not it’s not an
allergic reaction so sometimes a patient
will have a difficult time
differentiating their symptoms from the
medication that’s why a flag okay
Oh fun fun sound effects today uh who is
that is that DJ Doolin is Bueller
Wow well so all right we have two two
sound effects as far as I can tell
Eden I stand corrected
so anyway this patient was taking nausea
medicine right and so anyway so I can
turn off this she was feeling too good
well well no so so the thing is she
actually was just confused because it
sounds like it yes it is thank you taken
medicine that makes her sick what’s the
opposite
well seems to me she should just take
the opposite medicine well the the
output the opposite medicine yeah see
well so this this medication actually
does stop the nausea it’s just I know it
does but you just said it doesn’t makes
your sink router London looks like I’m
the doctor today
okay okay dr. Cameron yeah well it’s a
nice ring to it dr. Cameron right so you
know why don’t we go ahead and move on
to our topic for today I was told that
my topics before we’re a little bit too
specific to particular narrowed down yes
that the scope old stethoscope yeah well
London keeps talking about okay well I
mean we talked about rhabdomyolysis last
last episode that was the actual topic
so today’s episode it’s gonna be about
just the heart our cardiovascular system
you know this is how our nutrients our
blood gets which carries our nutrients
and oxygen it gets pumped throughout the
body and from everything from you know
the heart itself to down to your toes
and you know you scatter all that I got
a question dr. London okay how did the
pump in your body okay good question
so it actually it’s a muscle it’s a big
muscle and so it squeezes you know yeah
but how does it do that
alright well okay if you just have your
hand in front of you and like you have
you ever squeezed like an orange or a
stress ball okay so it’s kind of like
that it’s not a hand on my heart right
so what’s squeezing it okay I guess I
see your point
so it’s actually the heart that squeezes
what’s squeeze in the heart well well
it’s your your heart is the squeezer in
this situation does that make sense
no okay well okay squeezing the heart
okay let me ask it in a different way
okay
who’s squeezing what okay right now
alright so right now in your body if you
feel your chest or you can also feel
your radial
holes and your your radio who’s it right
so so if you feel your heartbeat that
heartbeat is generated by the these
pumping of the heart okay every time the
heart squeezes gonna who’s pumping it’s
this doctor okay well I’m really sorry
just jargon your throat around yeah
so we have this okay so we’ll go ahead
and we’ll move on from the the basic
thing I’ve just just understand it for
now
that ways to funny about the heart so
the heart something you know squeezes
down and once your blood gets pushed out
that’s called a systolic portion and so
we’re but you when you heard school uses
down and your your bud gets pumping out
throughout your whole but is that good
it’s I mean that you’re still not
talking about what’s squeezing it but
that’s fine we can just we can keep
talking about so the heart love right
what well we’re not actually talking
about the whole that’s that’s the
emotional that’s how that’s actually
controlled by your broad attack right
okay the number one yeah cause of death
in the u.s. is cardiovascular deaths so
yeah we can get into that the number one
cause of death is go-cart disaster well
no so would you say cardiovascular okay
so cardio that means heart
vascular means the blood vessels you
keep saying I keep hearing go-cart
disaster say it try to get do enough
doing the funny voice again right well
sometimes so so cordial refers to refers
to and so a code you mask you see you
would be the whole does that make sense
yes that makes perfect sense
wow I love that who is that guy who was
talking I guessed I’d be like sort of a
Bullwinkle boys yes they would Thompson
Thompson there’s pop okay you’re not a
sponsor there specifically explicitly
not a sponsor we’re not supposed to talk
about them at all good good good good
well so hanna-barbera reached out to us
and they specifically said that they
will not be a sponsor we cannot talk
about Flintstones Jensen’s right what we
call any of that okay just get too close
to it okay thank you
Oh DJ do Oh dr. London what do you have
to say about the heart today what’s on
your heart
so its leading cause of death in the
United States cardiovascular issues so
this is something that we actually want
to watch out for that’s you know what am
I being too uptight again I hate to
interrupt but I’ve been over here
cooking up something good for y’all and
I’m ready to share is this a guest or is
this yeah Sheila dawn here and I have
some goodies that I’m bringing to the
State Fair and I thought I thought I
would show them here first
hello miss Dunn my name is uh London
smitten this is Jacques doc don’t tell
me you really believe all that hoo-ha
about the cardiovascular system in the
heart this is I couldn’t make sense of
it he kept talking about go-cart
disaster at the top of it that is so
ridiculous so what I’ve got cooked up
over here amazing what
who’s squeezing what let’s look at
anyway sorry sorry go ahead miss gone
first of all squeezing i’ve got
deep-fried cherry pie and then i also
have deep fried butter sticks and i have
deep fried butter sticks with cheese mmm
now these three pair together really
well and so i recommend eating one bite
of each throughout your whole meal
experience this is this is good for your
heart
that’s what i’m trying to say this is
good for your soul well it’s this is
soul food good for your heart good for
your soul
well it’s actually so this is one of
those things where i’m diet and exercise
can actually be plays big roles and i
just apologize to our guests real quick
he’s like this he just you just gotta
let him just always talking a bunch of
failure then – hey hall a bunch of it’s
nonsense the squeeze gotta squeeze it
your squeeze squeeze this doesn’t that
dumb kissy voice well so diet can be if
you eat a lot of fattening foods
anything high in you know cholesterol
that can actually contribute your still
hungry though I do have some deep-fried
lard and that’s look lard deep-fried
lard and that’s low in cholesterol it’s
its number one seller at the State Fair
of Arkansas um so that actually pairs
really well with our deep fried burger
and fries we just fry it all up together
in one big hunk and then we have a deep
fried meat and that’s just meat that we
have gathered you know along the way in
our travels and
we have just deep-fried them up and
we’ve got them ready to go for you here
we’re just selling them selling them
like hotcakes yeah I mean yeah I mean if
you’re sure sure we can hmm good for
your heart okay it’s hard to and so this
is the lard is that we’re tasting you
front you oh and goopy also some groups
that may have been the lard and the meat
mixed together yeah okay well I can’t
help but think that this might actually
be high in cholesterol which is actually
one of one of things you actually have
to watch out for whenever it comes to
cardiovascular disease because it can
clog the artery I don’t know if you guys
have heard that term clogged arteries
well I’d be way more focused on the
rabies yeah I would focus on clogged
rabies as well I’ve heard more about
that and I’ve heard about what you’re
talking about I can’t make heads or
tails of some of these mugs but clawed
rabies well some of these meat I don’t I
don’t know I don’t know what kind of
life of these meats lived when they were
alive I don’t know what kind of people
these animals were that’s so true and so
I would be more worried about getting
rabies than I would getting a hard
infection from these animals that are
just getting busy heart I am getting
that I should I should clarify rabies is
also a serious illness it’s caused by a
virus the rabies virus so that we’re not
talking about computers doc I mean but
well okay so rabies is a virus that she
said it’s usually trying to open up my
email I’ve got a virus all right okay
well originally before computers they
had there were these viruses and they
adopted the same term to my
understanding for computers so this
would actually be just applicable to
multiple different
sort of a practices so AHA a virus the
rabies virus as you said is very serious
one is actually something close to 100
percent mortality rates so you are right
to be concerned about it but maybe not
so much for cooked food I don’t believe
it’s more
is there something sweet and the Lord
that’d probably be the skunk blood where
you’re saying dr. London well okay now
having the blood product mixed into a
given dish would potentially present
some some health no it’s all right yeah
but it’s still a blood Scooby but it’s
fried but a blood product that I mean
there’s a reason why let’s say if if a
patient had cut something open you would
the whenever you approach you would wear
protection about who the hell are you
talking about in a given scenario
there’s a reason why you you you don’t
let the blood touch you or get on you
much less consume is it what is he going
on I don’t know what the hell you’re
talking about
before you’re talking about squeezing
and you talking about squeezing all the
blood and now so my heart can my heart
can squeeze all the blood but I can’t
squeeze the blood out of this lard that
she made so the heart can squeeze blood
I I mean I’m I can’t squeeze some blood
and well maybe maybe I should bring us
back to the question why did you put he
said you said it was skunk blood just
one of the meats that I picked up in my
travels okay well this this one I
certainly can’t clear a blood is not a
meat I mean don’t I have blood in my
body so I can’t put more blood in my
body well through transfusion this is it
makes sense but you’ve lost okay I think
we can all agree that there’s blood in
our body can we all agree on that
yeah don’t want to be controversial get
doctor
you’re good I mean okay blood in the
Lord in the fried lard well and that I
understand to be true and so why it is
along I don’t know it’s so sweet lettuce
is sweet so sweet I’m sorry to say but
it I mean we’re made of 70% water and
yet I drink water every day right we’re
made up of I mean if we’re 70% water
than 30% blood well actually your blood
is composed of drinking water okay well
anyway let’s I think we all got enough
topic what else do you have for us today
or is this some that’s so sweet so you
have this fit is this a regular product
that you make or this one start take
fair comes around we spend the rest of
the year
roaming around getting our meats ready
for the State Fair you spend that full
year hunt traveling through the major
highways sure and that’s where we find
our meats we travel around to all the
states we go to the through the major
highways we find the mates we bring them
to your local Arkansas State Fair so our
local there’s one State Fair obviously
yeah and we just we give you exotic
meats from all across the country
it sounds like real work like a real
work not like oh you sit in an office
like a doctor’s office all day I’m sorry
how do you make okay you make you make
just a simple living rather inmate when
you date freeze okay don’t eat oh stop
it so you see you with my stethoscope
it’s okay well your squeeze let me
squeeze the blood I can just okay so you
you say you you’re using terms like you
know searching the highways
searching the highways and you’re also
good it sounds like you’re picking up
roadkill is that I mean you fancy taps
call it what you want
I call it free me okay so sorry to
clarify you find these animals deceased
on the side or in the middle whatever on
a road is that correct right I mean we
usually if it’s been like four or five
days we’ll leave it I mean I was on a
road to get here
earlier you were on a road presumably
yeah so that’s okay is that okay and you
clearly have an issue with it’s not it’s
not the traveling by Road that I have an
issue with it’s actually more the the
eating of an animal that you find upon a
road well would you rather we go to the
grocery store what would you rather me
go to the you know local market I bet he
would probably what would you rather me
eat my dog I will and I have when my dog
died okay what did your dog die of well
he got hit by a car okay thank you
DJ Dylan to the host and is that what
this is oh the yeah she brought that
platter no no that’s this isn’t your dog
no it’s my cat
okay why they’re so spicy
I don’t know if I I mean he was in the
road perkupp legs so hmm no it does
taste could you explain the science
behind why that skunks blood was so
sweet
whereas why this cats blood is so spicy
frankly uh that would actually be more
of a chef’s question which which is
really more it’s not quite my field some
taste isn’t so much the field we’re
talking about the heart Jaffa knee I
know Cameron you said this would be a
some someone who had commentary or
questions about the heart so what what
does this how does your your food for
the State Fair play into the role of the
heart in the body it’s good for your
heart it’s good for your soul it’s good
for your you know family get-together
like we established that like 15 minutes
ago okay
so when you say good for your heart you
do mean like he doesn’t even listen your
physical heart
okay well that’s I don’t know that
that’s actually true but but we can we
can go ahead and move on from that he’s
talking about squeeze and squeeze and
yet he says we can’t drink anything that
is made of the same stuff that makes up
a large part of our body ulis right
can’t explain why the cat’s so spicy all
right well what if um
maybe it’s time for a word from our
sponsors nope
no no spawns okay I mean yeah okay no
that’s alright you just have them or are
they sponsoring yeah I mean anyone can
have them okay well that’s not as that’s
not exactly what I was looking for more
of it are you selling those yeah those
are nice yeah you want them well how
much I mean just leave the whatever the
the cat just leave the cat
all right all right cool okay so yeah
that’s our sponsor thank you sir I am
now the sponsor yeah I don’t know if
that’s such a sponsor because all she
did was this
she bought sunglasses from you yeah do
you we should probably hear a word from
our sponsor now let’s hear a word from
our skunk blood cat blood has your
neighbor’s dog died
has your lizard been deceased call me up
put him in the road I’ll come get him
and I will make you the best jerky of
your lives
okay well say thank you miss $15 but I
get to keep the bones $15 for the for
which for which thing for the jerky okay
for the jerky but I get to keep the
bones right do you debone it or do they
bring it to you d pound and give you the
bones
I prefer pre deboned but I understand if
it’s hard for people to do that
especially if it’s their own pet yeah
that would that would be hard for most
promotes people not that a bit for
people with a heart taking it back to
the theme the conversation people with a
heart who love their pets I find it
difficult to debone their pet when
they’re trying to get it manufactured
into jerky okay right dr. London could
you talk maybe a little about the
science behind deboning a cat yeah for
jerky
well well to be honest this is actually
topic that at best I would think this
would be more veterinary medicine we did
have to do in cadaver labs in medical
school in the first semester
what who in cadaver labs which is a
cadaver is a sorry it’s a dead body
Oh human body that’s been preserved it’s
in a substance called formaldehyde it’s
disgusting right and alive a lot of
students that think that but it is
sort of the the best way that we have to
teach students with dead bodies which is
that’s the reason you went to medical
well it’s more of a way to to learn what
what it looks like it feels like in real
life so that you be aware instead of
just using a book yeah so that way you
can finally be aware what it looks like
and feels like to touch a dead body well
that’s I mean that wasn’t really the
point you have a problem with this woman
who has a great business where you take
your loved one your pet you bring it to
her deboned already haven’t made it a
turkey and get you and your free time
are touching what I hate I hate to ask
this question what did you call it again
I could ever I understand that it’s
difficult and some students couldn’t
take the side of blood or the sight of a
dead body some some students can’t you
know handle that and so they don’t they
choose not very soon after they
experience that so the reason you don’t
want us eating some of this large skunk
fried large skunk blood because you want
it for yourself that’s exactly what it
is you want to be able to touch it
you’re saying oh there’s a lot of people
go to medical school who you know are
too afraid or they’re too grossed out or
whatever but I love it I just want no
that’s not that’s not that’s not really
because I don’t I don’t love it it was
just a part of sort of how you how you
made it through well I do I do
appreciate that the commentary and the
the critique and maybe um maybe we could
well okay so you say for the for the
full year you’re gathering these what
what I would term is roadkill normally
but let’s say these animals that you
find on the road and you you just deep
freeze them until Road cadavers right
okay the these deceased bodies of
animals that make you like it more
we call it Road cadavers that make it a
door no your alley no I don’t think it
would help okay so so you gather these
throughout the year you just keep them
row dude and that’s that’s your job for
the year right until the State Fair do
you make enough money to live off the
rest of year from that I have the number
one selling tent at the Arkansas State
Fair okay so it does last you for the
fall the lines are miles long miles
miles how much how much money did you
make last year two point five mil okay
what’s your biggest seller you know it’s
just a combination of a lot of things
because I have so many small animals
well especially because whenever you had
a sample we were tasting multiple
animals at once like blood types I do
want to clarify when I say what’s your
biggest seller I don’t mean the physical
size of what you’re selling oh yes oh no
not what you’re it not what’s the
biggest I guess probably the thing that
I sell the most are the deboned pets
okay yeah people save their specifically
the pets yes even if their pet dies the
day after the fair closes they save
their pet all year long for when I open
up my tent yeah so so for these ones
these aren’t the ones that you just find
on a highway these are the ones that
people contact you and say my pet has
passed away well they just bring their
pet their dead pet deboned and it’s d
falling on the wait the car ride to the
fair much in the same way that I might
take a dead cadaver deboned and take it
to dr. London right well usually
the deep the bones are actually part of
the cadaver lab and I will say this is
that’s very much first semester med
school that’s not a part of the daily
practice of a dog ok so if my friend
dies I can’t bring him to you
those are you saying I my best friend I
am saying that I best fur I would not be
the one to bring a dead body to
generally speaking if they sorry I take
his bones out now I can’t bring him to
you that was that the issue ok well it’s
still an issue of my job is more to keep
people alive and so if your friend is is
already dead then I would not be the one
to call you that would be my job that be
jackford you know a morgue or something
so no that would be now if he’s if he’s
has let’s say the subject of today’s
talk if he has a heart problem and he’s
having a heart attack or something then
you could bring him and then we could
try to treat him and get him well but
that wouldn’t involve any deboning at
all that would involve you know this
sounds confusing yeah just debone the
guy and we’ll just take him to you
seems simple ok well I’m not so I mean I
guess we kind of do have a sponsor this
episode it’s dr. London if your friend
dies debone I’m taking them to dr.
London tucked it on and does whatever
weird doctor doctors I don’t know so
there’s your advertisement there’s your
sponsor your damn self you know but do
if a pet dies do what I mean if you want
to made into jerky
you know debone them and then bring them
to our are our guests
dawn miss dawn all right well um thank
you for your input
um let’s why don’t we go to the fan mail
sure yeah so um sometimes we’re we’re
relatively new podcast but we’ve already
started getting in some fan mail people
who are interested in medicine and just
want to talk and kind of hear about sort
of a doctor’s perspective on their life
and sort of what input we could have
specifically me but also perhaps our
guests maybe miss dawn maybe uh Cameron
here maybe even a DJ Dylan nope this
comes from Miss Sarah for
to dr. London how do I get a man to be
emotionally attached to me and committed
some of the things I’ve been doing
haven’t really worked it seems and no I
am NOT talking about sleeping with them
also why I’m in so attracted to perfect
eyebrows
thank you miss was it Sarah
yeah okay dr. London okay okay so Miss
Miss Sarah was it yes um well thank you
for the question miss Eyre a great
question and appreciate you your
contacting us I feel as if maybe you
were leaning towards the sort of
emotional aspect of the perception of a
heart well it’s about the heart yeah
usually so we’re part okay well and this
is you know this is psychological
whatever okay so that that is a branch
of medicine as well as psychiatry okay
so dr. London help how do you get a man
emotionally attached to you okay how do
I get some or whatever okay
well I’m aware personally how do you get
a cadaver emotionally attached to you
okay well that’s not okay well I guess
what that word part personally I admit
Miss Sarah I have I also don’t always
get as close to people as I would like
maybe the the whole dating thing isn’t
yeah it’s not easy
and so I I get that you’re um having
that trouble and as far as getting
someone to emotionally or emotionally
commit to you or whatever I don’t I I
don’t think I know is it because he
haven’t found the perfect eyebrows okay
this is you seem to really be avoiding
the eyebrow thing which kind of tells me
that I’m really into the eyebrows just
for me for me I
okay okay cars on tape I’m eyebrows are
the thing for me if they don’t have the
eyebrows then it’s
they have to be symmetrical okay and
that’s so when you see a Paris juicy
perfect eyebrows walking down the street
okay I don’t force that person to be
emotionally attached to you okay and I
don’t with the heart using the cardio
the cardio cadaver right I don’t to make
them attach to me that well the way
you’re phrasing at least makes it sound
like I’m forcing them whereas
emotionally attached emotionally
attached so eyebrows right so I would
talk to that by with these perfect oh I
would try to ask them how they felt and
why they felt I guess yeah I’m this
isn’t such a dating show I guess let’s
talk let’s ask our guests yeah I get
sure miss Donna well I guess to me when
I see two bushy eyebrows it just gets me
hungry it just makes me think of the
meat and I just get ready to to get my
deep fryer going and to peel it pilfer
through the deep freezer and find a good
hunk of meat so this is these are
eyebrows we found through your travels
right
so you think of wow that’s great Road
when you see someone’s eyebrows you
think of roadkill you’re on the street
you see eyebrows and you start thinking
I need to go to my freezer and I’ll stop
somewhere at a restaurant you think I
need to go to my freezer and pilfer
through and find a good hunk of meat
that I’m that you think would correspond
to the the fuzzy eyebrow the bushy and
this is good for your heart okay once
again I should this is lowers your
cholesterol I do not think that it does
in fact well granted
okay so for you it makes you hunger
okay it gives you a hunger and I guess I
guess that generally emotionally that’s
a lot of us right we are longing for we
aren’t we sort of hunger for a
relationship we long for a connection
most of us it doesn’t make us directly
hunger for the roadkill that we keep
deboned inside of our freezers but the
general the sentiment remains right
right okay sure okay well thank you I
think we’re out of time for today but
thank you to miss dawn for for coming
and treating us to your your delightful
treats I think you do Cameron as always
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